Crazy and Big's Philosophical Ruminations

*=Crazy x=Big
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x what's good
8:07 PM
*doing laundry/sweating my nads off
x no ac?
*trying to live green
only use it when i sleep
x ah
xi don't try to live green
i use just enough energy to be comfortable, no more
no less
*a true citizen of the globe
x i am
the green movement is a communist movement
and im a lot of things, but i sure as hell ain't no commie
*your applying adam smith to something thats kind of outside its perview
x huh?
*laisezz faire and capitalism
dont apply to the environment
x no
what im saying is
*unless the rich have some new earth thats built for them once the planet goes to shit
x communists have backed off from the overt commie angle
and have moved into the environmentalist niche
but theyre the same people and they have the same agenda
don't let them fool you
* i could give 2 shits about the developing world getting equal parts
i just dont want long island to turn into a reef
x if we really wanted to save the environment, we'd just nuke china and india
send a few H bombs there way
it's not going to happen, long island turning into a reef
you not using your ac
will make 0% difference
you say laissez-faire doesn't work
it works
look at how people's behavior is changing now that gas is over $4 a gallon
* because carbon emissions in cars drop without government intervention
x this is not some thing where if we don't make drastic changes soon, the earth is going to be fucked in 20 years
* until theres profit in conversation, no corporation will be interested in it
x we'll naturally progress and find alternative energy sources
they're already interested
they all research it
they know there's only so much oil in the ground, they know there is an environmentally conscious niche market, they get government grants, they research it for the sake of science
plus, they know the first person to figure it out controls the global energy market
so there's plenty of incentive
*explain the lack of hydrogen cars
this isnt the space age where competition spurs invention
x what's the point?
* if it was, shit would be coming out every day
x there's no feasible way to do
you need to burn fossil fuels to get hydrogen
*no
x yes
*nah
x there's no plain old H occurring naturally last time i checked
*i know of several water splitting engines as well as several biochemical pathways being exploited to produce massive amounts of hydrogen
its a matter of people know pouring in the money to make them feasible
x what do the engines run on
* http://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-cell2.htm (cheap plug for Howstuffworks)
x this isn't even what im arguing though
i 100% support government grants for that kind of research
i just don't think the govt. should punish the average american in the mean time
if they released a hydrogen car that did everything a regular car did as well that was price competitive, id but it
buy*
* as would i
but the american consumer is a dick
x no
* is there any need for a hummer
to be sold commercially
x if everything else was the same
and the only difference was the engine
most americans would choose the hydrogen engine
im confident in that
*i think so too
x if it was cost effective
*but the car is as much as status symbol
which removes practicality out of the equation
for the middle class, it works
x but for the 10% who want the v8 because its cool, you dont fix them without regulation
make a hydrogen v8
why isn't that possible?
you can do upper end too
*true
*but that doesnt solve short term problems
x the short term problems aren't going to kill us
*might kill our grandkids
or their kids
x then by definition they're not short term
*not even the loss of oil
the climate shift is the shit that'll cause the most problems
x ah fuck the climate change
* dude im a scientist, you cant dispute the changes
x what is it like half a degree?
they were saying there was gonna be another ice age 30 years ago
*yeah, that was before 2 billion new people had cars
x in 30 years?
i don't think so
*i mean the proliferation of vehicles in china/india
as well as their indusries
x i think they were just wrong
earth is a big, tough mother fucker
it can take it
for a couple more decades
* tell that to the dinosaurs
x o so conservation is going to stop a big fucking asteroid from hitting us?
* no, thats bruce wilis
x they didn't even burn fossil fuels
they are fossil fuels
we can't last as a race forever anyway
we've had a good run
time to let the next great race have a shot, i say
* our insect overlords?
x something that can withstand the new earth climate
listen to this
side story
cold blooded animals
i remember in like 6th grade
in religion class, we were reading the old testament, genesis, and learning about creation
and i raised my hand and asked, where do the dinosaurs fit int
b/c they tell you of course that they were around millions of years ago
which makes no sense in the context of genesis
i thought this was a smart observation
my teacher laughed at me
and so did the whole class
i hated that bitch
* was it a public school?
x no of course not
* i meant CCD
x i was catholic educated k-8
it was catholic grammar school
*no comment on it whatsoever
x yea
just laughed
and moved on
isn't that kinda fucked up?
* probably wasnt qualified to answer it
x yea definitely
she was like 26
*theological its a relatively simple explanation
x depends if you're evangelical or not
* evangelical its simpler "if it aint in the bible, it didnt happen"
x yea but that's, of course, ridiculous
x the catholic explanation is either that it's a parable or they were 7 really long days
*well humans invented the concept of time
x you're a scientist
you shouldn't be saying that
* science and faith arent exclusive
there are plenty of things that are unexplainable in science
x but time is just a measuring system
isn't*
*exactly
x o ok
* time is a human construct
x i think it's more accurate to say that humans invented the system for measuring time, not time itself
*what is time
its an arbitrary system developed by humans
its only a constant because we have no other rules for it
x time is a dimension
a fundamental structure of the universe
* because we defined the universe
x aright, whatever
* its all a matter of perspective
x i dont really care
we just post this convo on the blog
*because your getting philosophiucally pwnzord

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